Problem with Daggers

[Professional200]

There is no skill critical damage , so is useless to add SA critical damage to my dagger or wear an Assasin Set.
Oreo fix it , or tell me what you think , because im new on interlude servers.

[Estaloth]

cmon, are you serious? it's not even about interlude.

[LordGM]

/closed

[1Kain]

There is no skill critical damage , so is useless to add SA critical damage to my dagger or wear an Assasin Set.
Oreo fix it , or tell me what you think , because im new on interlude servers.

CD SA is adding just damage to normal hits (slashing with /attack ...).
It's not giving any additional damage to any blow.

[Professional200]

But in the previous chronicle (C4) with CD SA on my As with the skills i hit more than a AS without CD SA.

[Mamed]

Intresting....

[1Kain]

Well, you are right it adds 276 to p atk. But additional damage to blows in total is so low that it doesnt really matter, example...

this is formula for blow damage:

((PATK + POWER) * CRIT_POWER_BUFFS + (CRIT_POWER_PASSIVES) * 6) * 70 / PDEF = Stab Damage

Example of stats, lets take smth like that:
P atk = 1000
p def = 1500

deadly blow power = 5479

Crit Power Effects:

* Vicious Stance L20 = 602 Crit PATK
* Crit Power L6 = 384 Crit PATK
* Crit Power SA on Angel Slayer = 276 Crit PATK

Crit Buffs:

* Death Whisper 3 = 1.35
* Dance of Fire = 1.35
* Blessing of Queen = 1.25
* Baium Ring = 1.15
* Ant Queen Ring = 1.15
* Chant of Victory = 1.2

This is formula for a dagger class with AS CD and using deadly blow against other guys with p def = 1500.

((1000 + 5479) * 1.35*1.35*1.25*1.15*1.15*1.2 + (602 +384+276) * 6) * 70 / 1500 = Stab Damage

(6479*7,45 + 1262*6)*70/1500= stab damage
(48268,55+7572)*70/1500= stab damage
55840,55*70/1500= stab damage
3908838,5/1500= 2605 stab damage

He is gonna make ~ 2605 damage

However if you would use AS without CD
then using same formula its gonna be 2528 damage.
So you gonna lose around ~77 additional damage because you are not using as with CD
However with same stats you are not gonna get always exactly 2605 damage, its gonna be around 2605 -/+100.
Noone exactly knows how it works except NCsoft guys.
But formula is correct. Damage you are gonna make are around this count.
Here's a tip for you - go always in AS haste.

[Professional200]

Well, you are right it adds 276 to p atk. But additional damage to blows in total is so low that it doesnt really matter, example...

this is formula for blow damage:

((PATK + POWER) * CRIT_POWER_BUFFS + (CRIT_POWER_PASSIVES) * 6) * 70 / PDEF = Stab Damage

Example of stats, lets take smth like that:
P atk = 1000
p def = 1500

deadly blow power = 5479

Crit Power Effects:

* Vicious Stance L20 = 602 Crit PATK
* Crit Power L6 = 384 Crit PATK
* Crit Power SA on Angel Slayer = 276 Crit PATK

Crit Buffs:

* Death Whisper 3 = 1.35
* Dance of Fire = 1.35
* Blessing of Queen = 1.25
* Baium Ring = 1.15
* Ant Queen Ring = 1.15
* Chant of Victory = 1.2

This is formula for a dagger class with AS CD and using deadly blow against other guys with p def = 1500.

((1000 + 5479) * 1.35*1.35*1.25*1.15*1.15*1.2 + (602 +384+276) * 6) * 70 / 1500 = Stab Damage

(6479*7,45 + 1262*6)*70/1500= stab damage
(48268,55+7572)*70/1500= stab damage
55840,55*70/1500= stab damage
3908838,5/1500= 2605 stab damage

He is gonna make ~ 2605 damage

However if you would use AS without CD
then using same formula its gonna be 2528 damage.
So you gonna lose 77 additional damage because you are not using as with CD
Here's a tip - go always in AS haste.

Very interesting.. sounds like you are a good dagger , you still play on this server ?

[1Kain]

Thank you dude.
Yeah, I am logging from time to time to piss off someone :)

[Xenicide]

Just get a Might Mortal Naga ;)

[Knoekie]

Just get a Might Mortal Naga ;)

They are the best =) only pretty expensive...

[Mamed]

Just get a Might Mortal Naga ;)

true, true :)

[nTc]

CD SA is adding just damage to normal hits (slashing with /attack ...).
It's not giving any additional damage to any blow.
//true

[prolinho]

I accept with information:Crit Power Effects:
* Vicious Stance L20 = 602 Crit PATK
* Crit Power L6 = 384 Crit PATK
* Crit Power SA on Angel Slayer = 276 Crit PATK
Crit Buffs:
* Death Whisper 3 = 1.35
* Dance of Fire = 1.35
* Blessing of Queen = 1.25
* Baium Ring = 1.15
* Ant Queen Ring = 1.15
* Chant of Victory = 1.2